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Salamandre
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posted April 07, 2013 10:12 AM |
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No changes, your analyze is correct: only armorer and offense-as important- can be get via universities.
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master_learn
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posted April 07, 2013 10:43 AM |
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alisapa,I choose always earth magic(without expert slow CBs are hard) and pathfinding-you don't mention them in your post.
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Salamandre
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posted April 07, 2013 11:58 AM |
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Mithril isn't always what you need best. I got stats, movement, and twice mithril on level up, yet Josephine month 4 with 250 devils only is no way. You need about 400 of them to survive first 10 shooting rounds where you sit like a duck (elementals got 3 times in a row luck, wtf?). Trying to force faster bonuses with dragon cave now before Wystan cuz with MoS you can afford about 25 battles/day. And pray for devils.
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master_learn
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posted April 07, 2013 01:23 PM |
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I took the mithril for the first offer to have the attack/return ability.Every other offer I probably would choose devils or movement bonus.After you reach the merchant,you get decent mithril anyway.
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alisapa1211
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posted April 07, 2013 01:30 PM |
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@ML: I did mention them, check again. And no the first Special Level is scripted to always give Mithril bonus.
@Sal: How can you get 25 battles per day? For multiple heroes or Commodus only? Because that is like 12500 movement requirement...
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master_learn
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posted April 07, 2013 01:51 PM |
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@ML: I did mention them, check again. And no the first Special Level is scripted to always give Mithril bonus.
My mistake for the mentioned by you skills.
And MoD can choose their reward for special levels. (Not necessary mithril for the first time)
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Salamandre
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posted April 07, 2013 02:22 PM |
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@Sal: How can you get 25 battles per day?
I have 10500k movement on Commodus at special level 5 (got once movement) so this makes a bit more than 20 caves/turn, with the mana combo it goes fast.
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alisapa1211
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posted April 07, 2013 02:35 PM |
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Boy 25 Caves per day = 1 bonus per 2 day = 5 tiles + x random bonus, that's is just crazy .
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Warmonger
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posted April 07, 2013 03:17 PM |
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master_learn
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posted April 07, 2013 03:23 PM |
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I have 10500k movement on Commodus at special level 5 (got once movement) .
Would you decompose these 10500 movement to the components it includes?
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Salamandre
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posted April 07, 2013 03:39 PM |
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Salamandre
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posted April 07, 2013 03:42 PM |
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Boy 25 Caves per day = 1 bonus per 2 day = 5 tiles + x random bonus, that's is just crazy.
Well, I don't have the patience to do that more than 1 week, I only need 150 more devils. What annoys me a bit is that AI as Wystan or Josephine need brute force, no way to do if you never got devils bonus and play MoS. Before month 4, that's it.
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master_learn
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posted April 07, 2013 04:03 PM |
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Do 5 special levels+ logistic bonus for one of them equal 5x10+10=60tiles?
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alisapa1211
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posted April 07, 2013 04:09 PM |
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5 Special Levels = 25 tiles/ 2500 Movement, he said 1 Bonus Movement, and thus the bonus is 35 tiles/ 3500 Movement. Base (no MoS) with Expert Logistic + 2 Gloves + Boot + AD only is 4000 IIRC, after getting Logistic Master bonus it becomes 4500, and thus without any upgrade he already has 80 tiles/ 8000 Movement per turn.
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master_learn
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posted April 07, 2013 04:34 PM |
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Yes,he wrote to you that he (finished with MoE?)now play MoS,so we double the movement bonuses from special levels and after your calculations we get the 10000 movement.
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alisapa1211
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posted April 07, 2013 04:38 PM |
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No, Sal removes the double movement bonus for MoS in the newest version, that's just too much really, with enough farm and full upgrade I wouldn't be surprised if Commodus can reach 15 - 20k Movement depends on the bonus.
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Salamandre
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posted April 07, 2013 04:41 PM |
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Yes I removed the double bonus movement, or he will fly outside the map grid.
I don't really count the bonuses, I know they work now correctly, tested. MoS can get to very huge amounts, now playing MoS and I go with only 5 heros active instead of 7 (always used 7 for fights) just to see how far they can get in special levels, maybe will pay more, with MoS.
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master_learn
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posted April 07, 2013 05:20 PM |
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My impression is that rewards grow from level to level.
For his first level were 240 mithril.
I think at month 4 there is not so much need for more devils.These are efficient already.
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Warmonger
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posted April 07, 2013 05:24 PM |
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It does. Mithril = hero level * 10, devils = hero level + 10.
Anyway, do you have any tips for Galthran as MoS? He's getting harder every game I reach him 
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alisapa1211
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posted April 07, 2013 05:28 PM |
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Anyway, do you have any tips for galthran as MoS? He's getting harder every game I reach him
Sal tip for me is having as high as possible to kill Lich in one turn, then use Efreets to block and give you the time to kill the Fly stacks, after that you can simply block the gate. Not enough damage, I guess farming Cave Dragons like what Sal is doing is the proper solution .
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