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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
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posted June 28, 2012 01:04 PM |
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That is truly disappointing..
Only ONE faction???
Academy and that's it???
Because developer is "unable" to create a new faction???
are you (insert an insulting word) kidding me??
i am sorry but that's simply ridiculous!!!
Unbelievable!!!
No comments!!!
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foxxxer
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted June 28, 2012 02:03 PM |
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Edited by foxxxer at 15:26, 28 Jun 2012.
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My guess is that the Academy will appear in one of the next DLC's (after PSS) with a campaign for another €20-30. After that will come Sylvan and Dungeon first and second expansions respectively. Probably the last expansion will display the war between Sylvan and Dungeon in 566 YSD. Without any of those 3 faction Heroes is not Heroes. It would be just another mockery to the fans.
The other thing that bugs me is the reveal of the wizard hero Agar. Will it have new class (Tear & Blood) after there will be a wizard or will use some of the current classes? Will we expect some freakish surprise in that DLC? Academy?  It's super unlikely because the bugs and the balance. I lean more to the first sentence of my post but who knows. 
As for the creatures, there are many iconic criters (not only cyclop) that present in every game of the series: Phoenix, Hydra, Dragon (whether black, purple or any other color; just blacky is the most loved one  ), Cavalry (however you want call it Cavalry/Cavalier/Champion/Paladin/Sun Crusader it's the same creature), Genie, Minotaur, Unicorn and many others from low tiers. Yeah, Phoenix, Hydra, Genie change their factions (neutral) from time to time but they are vital for the game. So now in H6 we have 50% or 60% of the game. We need Blacky (not as a boss but as a playable champion), Titans, Minotaurs, Unicorns, Genies, Hydras, Mages, Treants (Dendroids), etc. It's good to have new creatures... but as an addition not as a replacemens.
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
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posted June 28, 2012 02:11 PM |
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There has to be Academy and there has to be Elves.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted June 28, 2012 02:13 PM |
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fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted June 28, 2012 02:23 PM |
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However the Cyclops has been in every heroes game. so in reality it is not the black dragon but the Cyclops that is the Icon of Heroes of might and magic.
as well as :
- cavaliers
- orcs
- wolves
- ghosts
- griffins
- phoenix (well, if ever that blue bird is supposed to be a phoenix as well)
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted June 28, 2012 02:40 PM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 14:40, 28 Jun 2012.
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There were no ghosts in Heroes 3 as I am aware of.
Wights and wraiths are totally different < >
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KingImp
Famous Hero
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posted June 28, 2012 02:55 PM |
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I think that less count of factions can mean good balance. Other wise H2 and H4 consist of 6 factions. So it's good tradition for even Heroes.
That's the problem though. People keep saying "balance this" and "balance that", yet Heroes 3 had 9 factions and did pretty well. Hell, when all was said and done, Heroes 5 had 8 factions and most would agree they got it right in the end.
Quantity does not mean quality has to suffer.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted June 28, 2012 04:11 PM |
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There were no ghosts in Heroes 3 as I am aware of.
Wights and wraiths are totally different <>
The are as similar to ghosts as the swordsman is to the squire, But still you can see them as the same unit. They have the same function. And the Ghost of Heroes II and Wraiths of Heroes III are just the representation of the games evolution.
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We see, we look, we gather, we store, we teach.
We are many, and you can be one of us.
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Rahmal
Tavern Dweller
Warlock
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posted June 28, 2012 04:12 PM |
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Will you buy the new dlc (Pirates of the Savage Sea)?
on ubi forum:
[url=http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/684183-will-you-buy-the-new-dlc]http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/684183-will-you-buy-the-new-dlc[/url]
It is a campaign, does not contain a new faction, may contain some new heroes and dynasty weapons.
The way they are doing things now only shows that they care nothing for the customers and that they only hope to milk a few more $ from the people who are still around.
That's what i think a lot of people dont understand, throwing money at the company will not make things right, it will only make them think we are stupid and will buy anything.
Please vote NOT, and force UBI to do something for the customers!
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted June 28, 2012 04:22 PM |
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Will you buy the new dlc (Pirates of the Savage Sea)?
on ubi forum:
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/684183-will-you-buy-the-new-dlc
It is a campaign, does not contain a new faction, may contain some new heroes and dynasty weapons.
The way they are doing things now only shows that they care nothing for the customers and that they only hope to milk a few more $ from the people who are still around.
That's what i think a lot of people dont understand, throwing money at the company will not make things right, it will only make them think we are stupid and will buy anything.
Please vote NOT, and force UBI to do something for the customers!
OK another of these people...
Point one.. why should I not buy the DLC if it is good?
Point two.. How do such people think they will help the game by not buing it? Can anybody explain this to me. because as far as my knowladge goes "no sales = No more such games". Nobady would invest in something that does not generate profit.
Point three.. Milking the Might and Magic franchise is somethin as old as Heroes III. Or what do you think are the reasons for titles like Heroes chronicles, Quest for the dragon bone staff or rashly finished games like Crusader or Legends. Both game hade potential which was killed by the "Geer" of the franchise owner (3DO at that time)
Point four.. Why do you even post this here not knowing more detail that are stated one or two pages back? In onther words welcome to teh forum and please read something befor you post.
Point five.. since when does ubi have the technology to force me to do anything?
Point six.. There are other forms how to help the game and better ones then just spreading bad and untrue informations about the game. Try to come up with some.
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I'm just a Mirror of your self.
We see, we look, we gather, we store, we teach.
We are many, and you can be one of us.
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avalon00x
Bad-mannered
Known Hero
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posted June 28, 2012 04:23 PM |
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Well i find it strange tho.
So they claim that: Quote:
"Commitment to improve and enrich the game remains un altered"
atleast that was the statement when they switched to limbic.
and now you adrian cat are stating
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Now there are no developers to make Dungeon.Maybe we will see Academy (it is half-made by Black Hole),but Limbic can't produce "full scale content" (these are Ubi's words).
Where do you get this from?
I find adding factions enriching the game. But now they claim there wont be expansions? Wich of the two should i believe?
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted June 28, 2012 04:38 PM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 16:43, 28 Jun 2012.
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The are as similar to ghosts as the swordsman is to the squire, But still you can see them as the same unit. They have the same function.
The swordsman is in no way similar to the squire (except for the fact that they are both humans?), so no, I can't.
And the wight/wraiths never had the same abilities as the ghosts (hence why both returned in H5).
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Both game hade potential which was killed by the "Geer" of the franchise owner (3DO at that time)
Just because something happened in the past doesn't mean it should happen again.
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Rahmal
Tavern Dweller
Warlock
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posted June 28, 2012 04:48 PM |
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Edited by Rahmal at 16:54, 28 Jun 2012.
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Dave_Jame
I see your points.
my point:
The witcher 2 ee was a big, fine and free dlc. That provided to the customers more content than this savage sea "expansion".
Ubi could take the example.
10 euros is to much, the original game is still buggy
The ubi could fix it, befote they make an "expansion".
But you are rights, you can vote as you wish.
I lost my temper.
I just want to please everyone to vote [url=http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/684183-will-you-buy-the-new-dlc]there[/url].
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted June 28, 2012 05:09 PM |
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@ Rahmal
there is a dedicated thread HERE
if u wish to express your opinion about buying or not the DLC
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Rahmal
Tavern Dweller
Warlock
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posted June 28, 2012 05:20 PM |
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@ Rahmal
there is a dedicated thread [url=http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=37714&pagenumber=6]HERE[/url]
if u wish to express your opinion about buying or not the DLC
Thanks
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Quique30
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 28, 2012 05:28 PM |
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Point two.. How do such people think they will help the game by not buing it? Can anybody explain this to me. because as far as my knowladge goes "no sales = No more such games". Nobady would invest in something that does not generate profit.
Oh, you will definitelly get more such games by buying it. The message is pretty clear.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted June 28, 2012 05:40 PM |
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The swordsman is in no way similar to the squire (except for the fact that they are both humans?), so no, I can't.
And the wight/wraiths never had the same abilities as the ghosts (hence why both returned in H5).
And may I ask why they are not similar? Both work as the basic infantery, Both use sword and shield (The crusader has one) and both represent the same icon, The Knight in armor on foot.
In your logic the Ghost from H2 would not have anything to do with the ghost in HV due to the fact that they both have different abilities Fallowing this logic the Ginnie from H3 would not have anything incomon with the H3 one due to the fact that except for their look they do have nothing similar (Abilities, faction, price, layer) and falowing this logic a little more The Dragon From Heroes 1 would have nothing to do with the Black dragon from Heroes II due to the fact that they have different names.
Units change throughout time, their abilities, names and looks.
If you want to continue in this discussion.. I think we both know where to do so. : Here
@ Rahmal do correct me wrong, But the Witcher is CD projects leading title, Their one and only flagship, Their golden cow. If Heroes Would have the same states, Ubi might do something similar, But not to a game of its status "A legend living off its pass".
@ Quique30: Mocking does not help. I wanted an example how do you think not buying the game will help the game? I think Diablo III is a bad game, and I didn't buy it, How did that help it became a better game? (And yes I do think so)
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I'm just a Mirror of your self.
We see, we look, we gather, we store, we teach.
We are many, and you can be one of us.
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted June 28, 2012 06:02 PM |
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Look, Ubibic are pretty sneaky charging us for Savage Sea, but I will pay for it cos I wanna check it out...
You all have missed the obvious creature that's been in all heroes games:......you!
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Rahmal
Tavern Dweller
Warlock
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posted June 28, 2012 06:08 PM |
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the Witcher is CD projects leading title, Their one and only flagship, Their golden cow. If Heroes Would have the same states, Ubi might do something similar, But not to a game of its status "A legend living off its pass".
I played heroes of might and magic since the first one (ms-dos era).
This is a legendary game with a plenty of fans, it is an unique turn based strategy game...
I think, ubi could make a "golden cow/goose".
Heroes could do the same thing, if ubi keep the heroes fans satisfied, the game nearly bugless and "fan-centered".
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Quique30
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 28, 2012 06:19 PM |
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@Dave_Jame: I'm not mocking you. I'm sorry if it came across as that.
How do I think not buying this DLC will help the game? By telling them:
1)that it's not acceptable that they try to sell us a product for a broken game;
2)that there has to be more content offered for the price they are asking for, or reduce its price;
3)and more than anything: That in the future, they should put out solid products in the market or risk not selling enough to make a profit.
If everyone is willing to pay anything for anything they offer, then they will just do that. By buying this DLC you are telling them you don't mind being sold a product with the issues I described above and that you, implicitly, take their bussiness practices as acceptable (read: bugged game, DRM's, lack of communication, etc.), with the premise that it'll be all fixed someday.
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