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Lithium_111
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posted November 17, 2011 09:06 AM |
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never really liked skyrim
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted November 17, 2011 09:17 AM |
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It's a clear improvement over Oblivion, I'd place it between that and Morrowind.
H6 is just as sidestep.
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disturbed-Gnu
Supreme Hero
Pro Bacon Vodka Brewer
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posted November 17, 2011 12:13 PM |
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Never really liked skyrim? But its so new 
I never played Morrowind :S Did i miss something? Oblivon was fun..
H6 is still a heroes game, but then again, Dark Messiah is still a M&M game. ;p
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted November 17, 2011 12:47 PM |
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If you played Oblivion and liked it, chances are that you won't like Morrowind. Which is a darn shame.
I miss levitation spells, spears, shurikens and crossbows... 
Also: Arx Fatalis > Dark Messiah.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted November 17, 2011 02:26 PM |
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Never really liked skyrim? But its so new
I never played Morrowind :S Did i miss something? Oblivon was fun..
H6 is still a heroes game, but then again, Dark Messiah is still a M&M game. ;p
DMoMaM =/= MaM I-XI
DMoMaM = CoMaM, WoMaM or LoMaM
Just because they are from the same brand, doesn't mean they are from the same Game style
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yasmiel
Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
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posted November 17, 2011 05:43 PM |
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You know what, I don't mind the new systems in the game that much. I'm perfectly okay with the new tier system, the new resource system, and I'm not happy about town screens, but they say they are coming, after some internet connectivity issues There is one thing and one thing only that makes me give this game AT BEST a 5.5/10.
The GOD SNOW SNOWING CONFLUX. First of all, this is clearly sugarcoated ubisoft DRM Bull Snow, and it's obvious. The game looses so much functionality without the conflux. I can do half the "new features that they praised the game for, not because these features actually require an internet connection, but because its meant to restrict pirating, OK. I can't gain dynasty points to spend later, I can't create heroes for Duel Mode, I can't do much of anything, and it's awful. There is no reason that almost any of the systems in the conflux have to be tied to the internet directly in any way. The entire system is completely unnecessary. Further, there are features in the offline version that would actually be nice to have in the online version to, like a small number a pre-made heroes.
Along with this comes the save games. Seriously the files don't even transfer. So I have to restart whatever game I was playing if I go on a trip, loose internet temporarily, or the servers are down just because I had been playing it in online "read non-gimped" mode, and if I re-establish a connection I can't take that file and make it a game in online mode. This is one of the infuriating things.
Additionally, despite the fact that according to the Facebook page, they haven't had the server up since the 8th, and i haven't been able to connect to the conflux since then either. This is mind bogglingly irritating. I'm not playing a gimped version of this game. The facebook page saying "don't worry you can still play in offline mode" is nothing but an insult. Initially I gave them the benefit of the doubt here, but the fact that there is an offline mode, and an online mode in and of itself a problem.
This sums up my feelings as well. As it stands i will not be buying the game until it hits the bargain bin.
Once again i do not put much blame on developer (they get a bit though). Ubisoft is getting annoying however.
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kodial79
Promising
Supreme Hero
How'd Phi's Lov't
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posted November 17, 2011 06:21 PM |
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Yeah, I've reached that conclusion as well. I was excited about Conflux at first but now I feel cheated.
Let's take things from the start...
The rumor of a possible DRM had me raging. To me, HoMM is an offline game. The only MP mode I would play is hotseat offline. I didn't need to connect online to play and didn't want to either. I don't like playing online single player campaigns. We might not have internet tomorrow or game servers might not be up, etc. etc.
Then they explain how the Conflux was gonna be like and I was excited for that. If you get to unlock extra features by playing online that is worth it then, is what I was thinking.
Now that I've been playing there for a few weeks, I see that Conflux was completely unnecessairy and especially UPlay is a messy fault. All the important features that you're supposedly accessing through it, could have easily been implemented into the offline mode. We should not need to connect for that.
Oh well, no use crying over spilled milk now, right? This is something that they are not willing to change. Just making a mental note to remember this when they next release a game.
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B0rsuk
Promising
Famous Hero
DooM prophet
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posted November 17, 2011 09:48 PM |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Conflux has some activation codes for extra items (Dynasty, etc). This means second sales are less valuable, because you're not getting everything ?
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yasmiel
Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
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posted November 17, 2011 10:07 PM |
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I'm not sure 2nd sales are even supported in most modern games. That's one of the main ideas behind "this product is licensed, not bought" ramble.
All in all, a huge mess.
For starters, they should enable name change in Conflux at least, since its impossible to change the UPlay one except opening a new account (and of course buying a new game license to tie in to that new account)
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted November 17, 2011 10:32 PM |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Conflux has some activation codes for extra items (Dynasty, etc). This means second sales are less valuable, because you're not getting everything ?
Yep that is the fact. But it they have a SMART idea of selling keys separet.
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Momo
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted November 19, 2011 12:56 AM |
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I don't really see how Kodial can repeatedly say that HoMM 6's story is worse than HoMM 5 without anyone reacting.
Neither of these is Dragon Age or other similar jewels of storytelling, that is clear, but does anyone really think that Sandor is comparable to Gotai, Anastasya to Markal, Anton to (gosh!) Isabel? I'd take HoMM 6's storyline everyday over the unexplicable work that HoMM 5's plot was.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted November 19, 2011 02:35 AM |
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Hold on... The Dragon Age dating sim had good story telling?
I wouldn't know because I haven't played it, but doesn't one of the characters say "I like big boats and I cannot lie" at one point?
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SoilBurn
Known Hero
BurnsSoil
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posted November 19, 2011 04:01 AM |
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Well, haters will just keep on hating.
I found both H6 and Dragon Age to have excellent storylines, whereas H5 felt like a script for a nursery school play.
And what's wrong with big boats anyway?
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Aosaw
Promising
Famous Hero
Author of Nonreal Fiction
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posted November 19, 2011 05:16 AM |
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Edited by Aosaw at 05:16, 19 Nov 2011.
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You may be confusing scripts with storyline. Heroes 5 had a decent (not great) storyline, but a terrible script.
Heroes 6 has a decent script, but its storyline isn't really all that much better than Heroes 5's.
Personally, though, I never played Heroes for its groundbreaking storytelling. 
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Gweret
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 19, 2011 01:55 PM |
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say "I like big boats and I cannot lie" at one point?
This is from Dragon Age 2. Which happens to be streamlined hack and slash, not RPG. Also it is very immature game.
Dragon Age: Origin is a lot better in this area. There are few "concepts" which completely owns, and a few which are average.
For eg. dwarves are presented in completely different way. From little funny Scottish fellas to Hunger for power and coins people. Of course there are typical "representation" of dwarves in Dragon Age, but they are more "natural" in "real" sens.
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kodial79
Promising
Supreme Hero
How'd Phi's Lov't
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posted November 19, 2011 02:05 PM |
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I don't really see how Kodial can repeatedly say that HoMM 6's story is worse than HoMM 5 without anyone reacting.
Neither of these is Dragon Age or other similar jewels of storytelling, that is clear, but does anyone really think that Sandor is comparable to Gotai, Anastasya to Markal, Anton to (gosh!) Isabel? I'd take HoMM 6's storyline everyday over the unexplicable work that HoMM 5's plot was.
I'll take Isabel over Anton, Markal over Anastasya and Gotai over Sandor anyday!
Especially Anton, Anastasya and Kiril piss me off so much to the point that I wanna skip through their dialog boxes. I don't though, so I will know what I'm talking about.
That said, so I won't be misunderstood. I'd take Catherine over Isabel, Sandro over Markal and Crag Hack over Gotai anyday!
If I had to rate them from 1 to 5. I'd rather Heroes VI characters with a 1/5, the Heroes V characters with 2/5, and the Heroes III characters with a 3/5. And that's me being as kind as I can spare in all cases.
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B0rsuk
Promising
Famous Hero
DooM prophet
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posted November 19, 2011 02:20 PM |
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Edited by B0rsuk at 14:22, 19 Nov 2011.
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I don't own the game, and I feel happy about that. One reason is that battles look boring.
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Heroes 6 - bringing the exciting MMORPG combat mechanics (Tank, Healer, Damage Dealer) to Heroes of Might and Magic !
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Maybe that's just me, but I always thought the combat mechanics in MMORPGs are the most boring things about them. For this reason I was briefly interested in Age of Conan. It showed promise, but failed. Imitating combat mechanics of MMORPGs is the worst thing to learn from them.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 19, 2011 02:41 PM |
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I'll take Isabel over Anton
Do you hear that? This is the sound of kodial's credibility going down the drain Isabel? Good lord why did you have to remind me?
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted November 19, 2011 03:53 PM |
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Edited by Cepheus at 15:55, 19 Nov 2011.
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Kodial, Avirosb, Zenofex, probably KingImp and others who have been voicing complete dissatisfaction with H6's storyline and atmosphere, could I ask you to do me a favour, if you have time? Play this map (you need Heroes III and Wake of Gods) - only a few turns if that's all you can get through - and tell me how you would rate its writing, characters, plot and style. This is not entrapment, I promise you - it's an absolutely genuine request with no connotations.
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"Those who forget their history are inevitably doomed to repeat it." —Proverb, Might and Magic VIII
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted November 19, 2011 04:04 PM |
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For the record, I'm not voicing anything apart from a disappointment from the storytelling in the Haven campaign which can still partially be redeemed if the other campaigns are better AND provide some adequate answers. Heroes IV had the wonderful Death campaign and the unbearably sugary Preserve one (although even it was somewhat well-written) so we'll see. Somehow I don't expect much though, Ubisoft seem to consider the players their brain-equals, i.e. 14-year olds.
Regarding the map - does it matter which version of WoG? I have none at the moment and will have to download something.
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