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I'll take Isabel over Anton, Markal over Anastasya and Gotai over Sandor anyday!
Especially Anton, Anastasya and Kiril piss me off so much to the point that I wanna skip through their dialog boxes. I don't though, so I will know what I'm talking about.
That said, so I won't be misunderstood. I'd take Catherine over Isabel, Sandro over Markal and Crag Hack over Gotai anyday! 
If I had to rate them from 1 to 5. I'd rather Heroes VI characters with a 1/5, the Heroes V characters with 2/5, and the Heroes III characters with a 3/5. And that's me being as kind as I can spare in all cases.
Well, it's always a bit subjective when it comes to narrative tastes, but as far as one can discuss such preferences, I wholeheartedly disagree.
Isabel is just a character done wrong; the writers wanted us to like her and give us reasons to protect her, whereas she turned off as fanatic, incompetent and coercible. Anton, instead, is willingly portrayed as an extremist, and credible motivations for his extremism are given - forced loneliness, chronical mental instability, though choices to make. Some would even sympathize with him. Also, he's more well-rounded than one thinks, for instance he didn't kill Anastasya out of zeal (as one would expect of him) but out of mercy, using his very own zeal as a facade. Isabel never comes close to any of this, she's just a semi-sentient problem with legs who sinks down with her half of the characters and countries in the story while leaving you wondering why in the heck is she treated as someone important enough to do so.
I also can't see where you come from, saying that Anastasya is a Twlight wannabe. She doesn't unexplicably fall for a dark being with supernatural charm against all warnings and evidence that it would be a unhappy story (which is the trademark of all the vampire-love stories you justly despise); on the contrary, she falls in love with someone who her culture labels as a truthful friend, mentor and guide, someone sho should supposedly raise and protect her. She is just as credible as Anton as a character, because naive, curious and bookish girls are typically easy pray to cruel or manipulative partners. Most importantly, the story is not about making her impossible romance a possible one, but the story about how she grows to be a different person and sever ties with his former life and former lover. In short: it has n.o.t.h.i.n.g. to do with Twilight really. And she's not really worse than Markal in any way, as Markal was nothing but an evil mage who could only succeeding in manipulating someone as stupid as Isabel; it's not really Markal's fault that he isn't a good character, it's simply that Isabel's failure as a character marks Markal's (as it does with Raelag, too, but that's my own opinion).
Sandor's love for a life in the wilds represent his own way to fight his sense of enstrangement and abandonment from his family. Kiril's (exaggerated and badly written, I agree on that) careless attitude try to portray a cynical, disilussioned character who doesn't give a damn about the greater-scale events around him. I don't quite "get" Irina's character, it seems to me that they are just placing a quite ordinary character among nagas to make us feel that nagas are weird (=poor storytelling), but then again I only played one campaing with her yet.
Still the general quality of the cast is lightyears above H5. I can give you a coherent explanation about why most people act like they do, and that's more than anyone would ever say about -expecially- Isabel.
And you're not getting Gotai or Arantir anymore, heroes who were essentially walking blank canvas with their factions' philosophical manifesto written on them. It's nothing close with Gauldoth or Emilia or even Elwin (whose faction's influence over his character is pratically nonexistant) but it surely is refreshing compared to what we previously got and if this is not an ojective fact, it still is as objective as a statement over narrative tastes can be.
Don't get me wrong, there are things to dislike in the game, and you hit the nail on many of them. The story is blatantly not one, though. Actually, I think you're deliberately misinterpreting the characters to gain the right to speak ill of them. I have seen this a dozen of times when speaking about FFXII and its storyline. You have the right to dislike the game, just don't try to make your opinion more powerful by distorting reality.
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posted November 22, 2011 01:39 AM |
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Excellent post 
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posted November 22, 2011 07:19 AM |
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Taking the stance of the sceptic, I must admit that what you call 'credible' to me sounds 'clichéed', and what you call 'refreshing' sounds to me like it could be written for a 13-year old.
But I haven't played the whole campaigns, so I can't really say for sure. From what I experienced on my own in the Demo they got me mildly annoyed with the hissing Nagas (how stereotype is that?) and then lost me completely at the retard Orcs that couldn't really form a coherent sentence. Seriously, couldn't they try something new for once? Isn't it the most overused chliché that Orcs are stupid and primitive and can't speak properly? Wouldn't it have been nice to have some Orc characters that you could actually judge neutrally from what they say and do, and not how they say it?
But at least they got one decent actor, the one who did Sveltana. I can hope there are more I didn't encounter in the demo (although what I've heard from other about the main characters isn't too promising).
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I disagree somewhat with Kiril's and Irina's interpretation. Kiril and Anastasya have been very close to each other all the time (while Irina and Sandor have been fond of each other as well, leaving Anton virtually as the 5th wheel of the cart). Kiril is simply "bravado". He's somewhat like James Dean, a Rebel Without A Cause (Anton, his older brother, will inherit the Duke title, and he is the typical younger brother of a noble family).
So Kiril is SUPPOSED to be somewhat annoying. He's WILD (although in a different way than Sandor), and he's actually the only one capable to deal with the "Inferno issue" (everyone else would simply be stunned and paralyzed).
So Kiril is rude, passionate, emotional, bull-headed - and a bit chaotic.
He also has lost his twin sister and has been badly betrayed by the Angel he loves.
I think, he is a BELIEVABLE character, when you consider the fact that he is A HUMAN IN SHEOGH, leading demon armies (Anton, for example, could never do that, because he wouldn't even WANT to). The Kiril character must necessarily be the way he is, otherwise his "Inferno career" wouldn't work.
Irina, on the other hand, is clearly the most MATURE character there. Her fate seems pre-determined: since she is a WOMAN, she will be married off to another duke or nobleman of another duchie (Anton will inherit the Griffin duchy). However, she won't have it - she's a proud one -, and her father wouldn't force her to anything. Bigger powers than him, however, leave her no choice, and while she's prepared to drink the poison of a forced marriage, she is not prepared to hand herself over to her huasband, neither with her soul, nor with her body. Gerhart's rape leads to her trying to kill him - he has dishonoured her! -, and when she is freed by Sandor, nothing has changed - the slight to her honour has to be eradicated.
So Irina is, what Kiril (and the others) are as well: her character FITS into the society she lands, in this case a feudal society based on ancient Japan with a strict honour code. Irina UNDERSTANDS that, since she actually is a very PROUD being with basically the same honour code as well. For her, it's all PERSONAL and a question of honor and loyalty (with Sandor being loyal to her DESPITE She is WRONG in the Imperator's Falcon Empire (she has to do what her Imperator tells her, and she has to allow her husband to consummate marriage), but she is RIGHT in Naga society where she may FIGHT for her personal honor (she has to obey her liege as well, but society allows her to challenge him to a fight if her honor dictates it).
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posted November 22, 2011 08:16 AM |
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I definitely disagree with Anastasya being a poorly-done character. She was a naive, bookish girl that was forced to take on life with a more sober approach - exactly as intended. If anything, any complaints towards her are simply because they don't like the character (she was my personal favorite of the bunch other than Sandor). The only character that I felt was very poorly done was Irina, and you can top it off with that I felt she had the worst voice acting of them all. It's like the only feature of hers is that she was headstrong. Other than that she was a blank canvass that went on a vengeful crusade that ended in killing her abusive husband with her bare hands. It felt like the story was written in the 1960s by an angry feminist. I wouldn't have minded if I went Blood reputation with her, but it felt kind of awkward being a Tears character and killing him at the end. I guess when she fled to Hashima I was expecting her to become more tranquil and austere (like with how Shalassa worshipers are described) and to end up fitting into the story in a different way. Instead it was just a linear progression of building up power and killing Gerhart. Kinda bland to me. Sandor was also linear, but he was the half-brother that ended up with a bunch of orcs, so it made the story simple but fun
Kiril's story was okay, but for some reason I really didn't like the voice that went with him, and I think they took his "nothing matters", cynical attitude too far. The way he called the demon prince stuck inside him "Azzie" was just obnoxious to me.
But yeah, key difference between Anton and Isabel is that it's as though they wanted you to cheer for Isabel in the story even though she was a sociopath. I think Irina's character is built from a similar mold as her, although Isabel was definitely far worse. Anton is intended to be a flawed, human character.
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posted November 22, 2011 09:04 AM |
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You have to consider the circumstances: the youngest son of a duke (basically a do-nothing); it's the kind of character who'd as a child, do all kinds of bravado stuff out of spite: biting the head off a frog and so on, since he has nothing better to do. He isn't needed for the follow-up business, but he's the son of a duke as well.
So he's somewhat a rebel without a cause - tamed somewhat by the Angel at his side.
Who's betrayed him in the most damnable way, landing him stranded in Sheogh.
This makes him a rebel with an attitude - what else? And it's explaing his cynism - he completely lost faith in anything good, if an ANGEL would betray you that way.
I repeat, Kiril is portrayed in a way that makes him coping with the Inferno issue POSSIBLE (instead of losing his mind or cry his heart out - or simply falling victim to Azzie).
Irina ... well, she MIGHT go the monk's way and seek wisdom, clarity and serenity - if she wasn't pregnant. I don't see any problem with the strict way she's going at things. It's in character.
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posted November 22, 2011 09:13 AM |
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No, Kiril's attitude and role was fine, I just think they went overboard with it. Sarah bound his soul to a demon prince. The succubi were saying that he would not have been reincarnated into Ashan after he died. He would have been stuck in Sheogh for eternity. It doesn't really get any worse than that. Yeah, he was the impish younger brother with a cynical attitude, but I still think it was superhuman how remarkably causal he was about it all.
And yeah, I didn't at all like the voice for him, but that's just a personal quip.
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Anastasya is nothing more than a teen drama queen in a cheap gothic romance for teenage girls as a target group AKA Twilight Fans. She doesn't have to be in love with a vampire to be that.
Having played two campaigns of Necropolis, this is how I saw her. First of all, for someone who found herself being an undead overnight, she adapted very easily, annoyingly easily in fact, to her new life style. And not just that but also she became an efficient general without having any experience in waging wars before that, commanding no less undead monsters that till then she probably heard of only in tales.
This kind of shallowness in character development, you can only meet in shounen manga and other such hollywood movies where their protagonists effortlessly adapt to their new nature and master their newfound powers as if they've been practicing forever and eventually overcome odds that realistically should be impossible for them to beat. Anastasya is no different than them.
That is to say, she had no excuse as a character to act the way she did. If anything she should be feeling accursed and forsaken but no, instead of that, she was making unfunny jokes about her girlish attitude and teensy love for an angel, herself.
Though clinging to someone you loved in life, is a good although cliche and overdone element, the way she went on about it, made it seem like she belongs to a princess barbie fairytale. Talking about dresses when her skin is rotting, should be the least her worries.
Then we enter the second campaign and vastly one of the worst, I have ever played in all of my experience in HoMM. The sorry excuse of a story there, reminds me of ping pong game. The kind you only see in bad hollywood movies rated never higher than 4 in IMDb.
Seeking help to determine who controled her mind, she goes back and forth between Jorgen and Namtaru and no one is giving her any answers, practically avoiding the questions. This is not bad by itself, although I would argue it's pointless and boring, the writers meant to have us believe that there's been progress when actually there was none.
Eventually, Jorgen guides her to a world of her dreams and her real memories, though I saw no memories displayed into it whatsoever, in which she fights random monsters, doing other random and pointless things and fights with her sisters and brothers. All for the sake of what? Knowing herself? Becoming a responsible and useful person to her undead society? What about who controled her mind? That got lost in the way, I suppose... So we ended up playing through another trite journey as mystical as a stoner's pipe dreams, enrichened with childish arguments and immature characters just there to give more fights, which was the most pointless campaign I have ever played in any strategy game ever.
Even Wonder Boy makes more sense than this. Dude skates through a land of baby monsters to save his girlfriend. There's more plot to that actually than the jargon that is the 2nd Necro campaign.
The only reasonable argument someone could have on her behalf, is that the character could be described as surrealistic, because she's not being realistic at all. I know it's a fantasy game, realism doesn't belong here but let's not make it as absurd as Alice in Wonderland, right?
But she's not even that. She's just cheap and that's not even a matter of taste, it's a fact. And she's not even the worst written character in this game.
Actually, come to think of it, saying that she's a Bella wanna-be, gives her more credit than she deserves... No, Bella is a great character compared to Anastasya. Yeah, I rank Anastasya as the worst of her kind.
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posted November 22, 2011 09:52 AM |
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These are SPOILER posts, all of them, but:
Anastasya is not your average teenager who would doubtlessly have problems adapting to the situation she finds herself in, but the thing you forget - or just don't know - is the fact, that these characters have been "groomed" to fulfill a specific purpose. For one, the whole bloodline has been bred over generations for a specidic purpose (and the dynasty weapons play a role here as well), for two, they have been educated and prepared by their very own personal angels over and above that.
So none of those 5 are "normal" or "regular" people in the sense that they should be stunned, paralyzed or whatever by events, that would doubtlessly made a quite different impression on someone else.
Additionally, there's not only that, but also the affinity each of them has for the "faction" they find themselves with, which in this case means, that Anastasya is somewhat overburdened with the chaos of life and finds solace in the order and calmness of undeath - which, however, makes kind ofa cleansing process necessary.
That mans, she matures from indeed something that would be called a somewhat childish (unsure of herself) Goth to a mature Necromancer the likes of Sveltana.
I don't see anything wrong with that.
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posted November 22, 2011 09:55 AM |
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No, Kiril's attitude and role was fine, I just think they went overboard with it. Sarah bound his soul to a demon prince. The succubi were saying that he would not have been reincarnated into Ashan after he died. He would have been stuck in Sheogh for eternity. It doesn't really get any worse than that. Yeah, he was the impish younger brother with a cynical attitude, but I still think it was superhuman how remarkably causal he was about it all.
And yeah, I didn't at all like the voice for him, but that's just a personal quip.
Well, they ARE somewhat superhuman (you DO know the full story, or don't you?).
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Jolly Joker, you mean to tell me that the "father's little angel" Anastasya was born to become an undead and lead armies.
What? Uriel was teaching her how to lead ghouls into a fight after he was boning her every night?
Or is it that the dynasty weapon which completely has no story behind it, which she picked up after killing a random stack of monsters in a corner of the map, had anything to do with it?
Overnight, from a naive girly-girl, she becomes a Necromancer and a Warlord of Undead armies. She casts dark spells like out of habit and leads grim and nasty looking undead creatures to slaughter the living without even flinching. Contrary to how girly her character is.
It's BS, pure and simple. There's no thought given to this character. FFS, even Ichigo from Bleach had to go through a very hard time (when compared to Anastasya, at least), to do what he did.
At least, Isabel did some very stupid things which show how inexperient was in the whole "war business". Unlike Anastasya, who was "born for this". Yeah, right, whatever... Out of all the trite, cliche, cheesy, dumb plot devices this has to be the worst. And in Anastasya's case, adapted in the worst possible way too.
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posted November 22, 2011 10:30 AM |
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Geeze, Kodial.
Bad Hollywood movies, manga, Twilight... and now H6.
Why do you expose yourself to all of this?
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posted November 22, 2011 10:35 AM |
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Geeze, Kodial.
Bad Hollywood movies, manga, Twilight... and now H6.
Why do you expose yourself to all of this?
Well, I had it coming with the rest of them but for Twilight blame my girlfriend. Ok, so she's a woman and like all women she's from another planet and she thinks differently than us men. But still... How can she like it?
But H6 really was unexpected, I feel like I was stabbed in the back. Betrayed, cheated, you know? I expected something more. Not much, nothing good in fact but I didn't ever think it would be THAT bad!
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posted November 22, 2011 10:47 AM |
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Kodial, it's obvious that you don't know, yet, what the story is all about, and I'm not about to write it down here as a spoiler.
Your rant is based on wrong assumptions: those Griffin brats simply ARE NOT your average teens and twens, but a tad more, and those dynasty weapons ARE explained in the course of the story - just not on every map, but rest assured there IS a story behind them as well as a "greater purpose".
It just seems to me that most people haven't grasped here who the bad guys actually are here and what's actually happening.
And leading Necro armies, you DID notice that the maps give you AMPLE time to grasp how things are working (everyone is complaining about there being too many battles), so I don't see what's actually the big deal here: you are no Warlord either - still you manage to move on.
What do you expect? All heroes being battle-hardened veterans with 50 years of combat experience because otherwise they are not believable?
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posted November 22, 2011 11:38 AM |
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Kodial, it's obvious that you don't know, yet, what the story is all about, and I'm not about to write it down here as a spoiler.
Your rant is based on wrong assumptions: those Griffin brats simply ARE NOT your average teens and twens, but a tad more, and those dynasty weapons ARE explained in the course of the story - just not on every map, but rest assured there IS a story behind them as well as a "greater purpose".
It just seems to me that most people haven't grasped here who the bad guys actually are here and what's actually happening.
And leading Necro armies, you DID notice that the maps give you AMPLE time to grasp how things are working (everyone is complaining about there being too many battles), so I don't see what's actually the big deal here: you are no Warlord either - still you manage to move on.
What do you expect? All heroes being battle-hardened veterans with 50 years of combat experience because otherwise they are not believable?
Oh please. Greater purpose and sh.. I shudder to think already what other stupid plot device did they come up with to wrap up their story.
Yeah, yeah, I know. The bad guys are the angels. There's no surprise there. Michael probably is the final boss and Uriel and Sarah will be fought before him. This is what it builds up to.
What ample grasp on how things work are you talking about? All she ever did, was re-animated in a dungeon, picked up random undead creatures she found in her way and went out to conquer cities and forts like it was her daily routine! Give me a break... Just manage to move on? She destroyed everything in her path!
Yes, this is what I expect actually. All heroes to be battle hardened veterans and still having a hard time. Anything less than that is fitting only for a children's saturday morning cartoon.
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posted November 22, 2011 11:56 AM |
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I suppose you've heard the name Alexander the Great already.
Oh, right, I forgot. Anastasya, the teen FEMALE brat.
I suppose you've heard the name Jeanne D'arc already.
So where does that leave your point?
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I suppose you've heard the name Alexander the Great already.
Oh, right, I forgot. Anastasya, the teen FEMALE brat.
I suppose you've heard the name Jeanne D'arc already.
So where does that leave your point?
You can't be seriously comparing Jeanne D'Arc and Alexander the Great to Anastasya? You just don't get to do that...
First of all, Alexander was not torn out of the life he knew and thrown into war like Anastasya. Unlike Anastasya, Alexander was born and raised to become the man he was.
Alexander was trained for war since his early teens. Some of the best of his era, were his tutors, including Aristotle but not just him.
In the age of 30 and not on his teens, is when he started his campaigns. I don't know Anastasya's age but given the way she behaves, she can't be older than 15.
And even so his legendary campaign against Persia, was not the only war he experienced. Before that, the Macedonians fought against Byzantium and Thrace, in which he fought too. Then under the commands of Philip and not his own, the Macedonian army moved on to conquer the rest of Greece. Anyway, during that time Alexander gained enough experience in waging wars and commanding armies. Something that did not happen to Anastasya...
What? Don't tell me you actually thought that Alexander saddled up his horse, took up his sword and took his whole army into an invasion against the entire known world just like that?
Furthermore, he was not given stranger and horrible monsters to lead as troops either, that should normally send a girl like Anastasya to the grave a second time just out of a scare.
And he had a multitude of experient generals who helped him in his task, not just a crony aunt who all she did was oversimplifying everything as if she's talking to a dumb audience. Well, considering it's Anastasya she's talking, then yeah, it's a dumb audience...
There's absolutely no comparison between Alexander and Anastasya.
Jeanne D'Arc as a semi-legendary figure as all saints are, her story is doubtful at best. Though her victories are a fact, let's just say they were not just her doing. She was more of a symbol for the people than the general who actually directed the whole campaign and the battles. Though I don't know much about her story, the little I do know indicate to that.
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posted November 22, 2011 12:38 PM |
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Story/Gameplay dissonance can be a weird thing indeed.
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Furthermore, he was not given stranger and horrible monsters to lead as troops either, that should normally send a girl like Anastasya to the grave a second time just out of a scare.
That made me LOL. Except that we are not talking about Smallville, Backwater, USA, but Ashan and the house of a reigning Duke for whom war - especially against strange and horrible monsters is a somewhat daily occurence. Not to mention, that you seem to miss the fact that those Griffin brats are not your ordinary Ashan kids ANYWAY and in addition - why do I have to repeat that?
Also you should update your Alexander the Great info. He claimed the throne of Macedonia aged 20, when his ather was murdered, unlike with Anastasya NOT by his own hands, but maybe on his orders, since there had been some trouble there, about whi you can read.
From then on he led personally.
Aristoteles, by the way, did NOT teach him anything about war.
Anyway, considering that we are talking about fantasy and a fantasy world here, it's interesting that you shrug off Jeanne D'Arc so casually, claiming her story would be half-legend.
That makes your whole points and argumentation even more absurd, especially with a light on your statement that you would expect every hero to be a battle-hardened veteran.
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Admittedly the Duchy has seen wars but not young Anastasya who spent her whole life in the palace and did not know a ghoul when she saw it for the first time after she was risen.
Anastasya was completely inexperient to anything besides theory and not on monsters and war anyway, but she might have known if the Angels got a gender or not...
The rest of the siblings could have had such an experience. I don't know about Irina, as her character indicates a tomboy so she should have at least tried sword fighting; too little but it's still something compared to Anastasya's zero in such matters. Anton was raised to be the new Duke so he should know a few things about ruling. Sandor even better, was trained by Kraal. I don't know much about Kiril but men always have an interest in politics and war, so he could just have it in him but given how a much of a retard he is, I doubt it. Women like Anastasya especially, don't take interest in politics and war. They're raised to become wives and her attitude too, proves she was like that as well. Her interest would be lying in looking pretty and given her lines in the first map, it was that indeed.
All n' all, Anastasya could not end up like this overnight. After she was risen, she should have been frightened, shocked and try to run away from it all. Her experience should have driven her mad and anyway, not allow her to keep her girlish personality.
However, as Anastasya's character portrait lacks reasoning, she is just your token cartoon character who uses up her supercool new found powers to take the world by storm.
Yes, Alexander the Great did ascend the throne as early as 20. He still fought in all of those wars I mentioned before taking on Persia and before becoming the King. He fought in them while Phillip was still alive. He fought under his father's commands and historians describe it, by the tutelage of his best generals.
Aristotle wasn't his only tutor, I made that clear, right? I just mentioned him because his name rings more heavy than others. Alexander received military training as a matter of fact, just not from Aristotle. Anastasya received no training at all, neither in war and nor in magic that she uses so expertly.
If anything about Alexander being King at his 20, should tell you two things. Firstly, that during his teens, he already fought in many wars and received training by the best of his era. And secondly, 10 more years had to pass for him to be able to invade Persia, because he started that campaign when he was 30.
As you can see, Alexander is nothing like Anastasya. He spent his entire youth fighting and training to become the leader he was. He spent half of his rule in a relative peace, and ofcourse given his personality, he was not an idle ruler but he gained a lot of experience in that. I have no basis for it but I daresay that at least at the beginning of his rule, he wasn't calling the shots until he got the grasp of it.
In any case, he received real experience first hand into such things before his legend even began.
Anyway, it's true that Jeanne D'Arc is a semi-legendary figure. Not as extreme as Arthur or Dracula but still, some of the things they say about her could as well be tall tales. Besides as I am no Christian, I don't believe she ever had any visions...
Like I said, I don't think Jeanne was the one calling the shots in the campaign. The whole thing happened when she was a teenager and reality is, you can't win a battle against a trained army without having any experience of your own.
She might have been the beloved of the people, and many would gather under her banner but when it came to fighting, someone else made the plans.
Anyway, that's got nothing to do with it. Even in a fantasy game, there has to be some connection to reality. Or at least a well written story. In Anastasya's case especially, I don't see any of both.
Anastasya in a nutshell? A girly in love with an Angel, who spent her entire life in her palace until someone took advantage of her naivette to control her mind and have her kill her father. After her own execution, she rises up as an Undead to seek out her father's true killer and she magically gains expert knowledge in an instant over war and undeath, and powerful necromantic magic, all of which were completely stranger to her during her life. Even in the face of such a dire situation, she does not only manage to maintain her sanity but she keeps up with her silly persona and merrily prances about her father's duchy, having her undead monsters slaughtering the living while she comments about her own girliness and only makes light comments about her new state. Finally, she finds herself in Heresh, to seek out Namtaru's help but she did not help her so the whole thing was pointless. Then with the help of a Faceless, she gets lost in a dream with(out) real memories to seek out the killer, and again she doesn't find his identity but somehow becomes a better person out of it for shedding the blood of her siblings over some childishly expressed arguments, the like of "Nya! Nya! Little Angel! Nya! Nya! You killed father! Nya! Nya!". Well, after expressing her love to them, she kills them and that somehow made her a better person.
That's so far as I've gone. Did I get anything wrong? I think not...
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