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The_Mysterious
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 20, 2008 12:22 PM |
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Quote: 1. Invisibility ability of stalker and shadow mistress reduced from 3 to 2 turns.
Fixes? It ruins! Just what imba does Invisibility make?
It doesn't increase damage and you can still damage with AOE stuff,
what excatly people find imba about Dungeon's weakest units with a skill to cover themselves? Just dropt the idea, IMO.
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Strider_HL
Famous Hero
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posted April 20, 2008 12:38 PM |
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Quote: Clear say all your arguments why this MoD is good and avoid all personal stufs.
Good idea! Let's cease the fighting that has diverted to personal antipathy. Sry for being carried away by some of your statements and demagogy. As for rationale behind current 5 MOD fixes, you can look up the argumentation in this and previous thread.
Again, if you want to fix spell getting, swift mind, etc. it's totally fine. I'm just saying that there is no need to get mad if other people have different opinions. If Fraudatio is voting for the mage's vault new system or Sq argue about necessity of harder swift mind, that is not a personal offence... Otherwise, I'd have jumped out of window 10 times as almost all of my personal suggestions have been denied
To sum it up, gather supporters for your ideas and persuade them to post opinions in this thread. The way of democracy...
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karim26
Known Hero
Land of Snowfall & Sunshine
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posted April 21, 2008 06:23 PM |
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no mods
I am 100% against any mods.
Then you have players using it, others not. Your are splitting the community.
No mods!!
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2ndHero
Famous Hero
Floppy Slayer
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posted April 21, 2008 06:27 PM |
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But I think it's important to balance the game, and if Ubi doesn't, someone has to.
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Help and suggestions needed here.
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted April 21, 2008 06:29 PM |
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Quote: I am 100% against any mods.
Then you have players using it, others not. Your are splitting the community.
No mods!!
Dont worry almost none will use this MoD
"The way of democracy..."
LoL
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted April 21, 2008 06:37 PM |
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Wow, so much pointless, ridiculous bickering over an optional mod.
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"Those who forget their history are inevitably doomed to repeat it." —Proverb, Might and Magic VIII
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted April 21, 2008 10:40 PM |
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Quote: Wow, so much pointless, ridiculous bickering over an optional mod.
Aye, our community is tight like that
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I'm Guybrush Threepwood, mighty pirate
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karim26
Known Hero
Land of Snowfall & Sunshine
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posted April 22, 2008 02:55 AM |
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my 3 cents
perhaps the mapmakers can make maps with these so-called unbalances.....or make rules at beginning of game.
I think the mod idea was nice, i do tend to agree with some points from the mod.
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
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posted April 22, 2008 09:00 AM |
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elit, i heard that once you install Toh (strider's) mod, some screenshots with map and all playing heroes skills will be sent to strider email inbox for every single autosave the game is making. be careful
have a nice day
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Strider_HL
Famous Hero
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posted April 22, 2008 09:41 AM |
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Quote: elit, i heard that once you install Toh (strider's) mod, some screenshots with map and all playing heroes skills will be sent to strider email inbox for every single autosave the game is making. be careful
You betrayed me again No more easy victories for you! And I'll detain your TOH MOD supporter's salary this month
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted April 22, 2008 11:03 AM |
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Can I take his place?
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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Strider_HL
Famous Hero
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posted April 22, 2008 12:57 PM |
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Quote: Can I take his place?
No double salary for a greedy supporter
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feluniozbunio
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted April 22, 2008 10:43 PM |
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Hey
I dont play anymore but i will add my 2 cents as well. I think this mod is pretty good thing. I havent played ToTE much but there were couple things that were screaming of being just too good. Its nice that theres a way to fix them. Obviously it would be great if everybody would agree on the changes but lets be honest, its not very probable. So probably making it optional would be good.
When comes to changes I especially like flaming ballista change. It was just too easy to get in my opinion.
I dont really get why invisibility is overpowered, creeping was never a problem for dungeon, it only makes it easier (and you lose couple scouts less but its not a significant number)so i dont think it too good. (unless theres some final fight tricks i didnt hear of)
I liked more how mages vault worked before tote. When you can get certain spell it allows you to plan your game around it, if its random i feel it takes part of the game away.
I havent play against arcane archers but i was sh**ing my pants when i thought about their ability.
Good to see homm is still alive. I switched to poker, its high time to start playing for something more than a pleasure
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted April 22, 2008 11:31 PM |
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As long as the stakes are good and you keep winning
And hey strider who said double salary? I'm a reasonable guy.
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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karim26
Known Hero
Land of Snowfall & Sunshine
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posted April 24, 2008 01:19 AM |
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stalkers DO get charged by AI
Hey,
I guess there is a slim chance that stalkers do get CHARGED even if invisible. I hade stalkers go invisible BEFORE enemy could act.....and upon the AI turn, they moved towards me, hydra, lizards and the shadow dragon....
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Strider_HL
Famous Hero
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posted April 24, 2008 06:50 AM |
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Quote: I guess there is a slim chance that stalkers do get CHARGED even if invisible. I hade stalkers go invisible BEFORE enemy could act.....and upon the AI turn, they moved towards me, hydra, lizards and the shadow dragon....
Are you sure you didn't have at least one of warmachines with you?
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
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posted April 24, 2008 10:11 AM |
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AI attack any visible target (charge or ranged). so if u plan to play hid'n'seek at big stakes, withdraw from the battledfield all other creatures, but stalkers and/or mistresses, and dont take warmachines with you.
if u have invisible stacks , but they are in line or onto an adiacent tile to an AI charge line to another of your stack (visible), stalkers/mistresses will be hit in the attackers' way to the target, and they will stop at that point.
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted April 24, 2008 11:23 AM |
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You forgot to add the picture !
Quote:
AI attack any visible target (charge or ranged). so if u plan to play hid'n'seek at big stakes, withdraw from the battledfield all other creatures, but stalkers and/or mistresses, and dont take warmachines with you.
if u have invisible stacks , but they are in line or onto an adiacent tile to an AI charge line to another of your stack (visible), stalkers/mistresses will be hit in the attackers' way to the target, and they will stop at that point.
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I'm Guybrush Threepwood, mighty pirate
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karim26
Known Hero
Land of Snowfall & Sunshine
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posted April 24, 2008 07:30 PM |
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haha
funny picture Valky.
Indeed, i did have war machines.
DOH!
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Strider_HL
Famous Hero
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posted April 30, 2008 08:10 PM |
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Ves, could you make this thread a "sticky" while we wait for the oficial patch?
TOH MOD has been a huge success and we need to spread its influence to heroes newlyweds as well! Even elit fell in the MOD's embrace. We played each other 4 times using the MOD. Although result is 4-0 at this point, he made hell of a fight. That guy is getting better with each time he plays TOH MOD... Who else does want to become better?!
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