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Thread: Strider Hl-Kispagat Ceasar semifinal in TOH chatroom live This thread is 17 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 · «PREV / NEXT»
csarmi
csarmi


Supreme Hero
gets back
posted February 26, 2009 01:21 PM
Edited by csarmi at 13:33, 26 Feb 2009.

I dunno I can't really test that fight because h5 runs very very slow on my computer and I dont have the numbers here. It just seemed possible to me, I might be wrong. Isn't there a way to get double mana btw? Or a way to put unwanted creatures on a secondary hero before the fight?

Things that come to my mind:

1) Not bringing angels to the fight.
2) Killing phoenix first, then the rest (while you're regenerating slowly - mana can be too low for that)
3) Bringing much more creatures (you probably can't afford to buy them)
4) Bringing just another, sturdy stack which is expendable (money problems?)

5) If nothing works, that means the map should have some built-in protection for getting screwed with low knowledge.
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diegis
diegis


Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
posted February 26, 2009 01:31 PM

in my oppinion this map is one of the most 'dangerous' in terms of suiciding...but great map.
Also, those balrogs are very very nasty creatures, I simply hate them ...
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Zilonite
Zilonite


Famous Hero
posted February 26, 2009 10:20 PM
Edited by Zilonite at 22:41, 26 Feb 2009.

Latest news from battlefield :

Kispagat-shipyard garnizon

Strider-shipyard garnizon

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csarmi
csarmi


Supreme Hero
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posted February 27, 2009 10:04 AM

Ehm. :-)
Careless play with those unicorns.
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Fraudatio
Fraudatio


Famous Hero
posted February 28, 2009 07:44 AM

Wow, Strider was Rutger? You looked almost human Strider! Great motivation for the rest of us Maybe this game will be exiting for both players and fans Keep it up!!

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Kispagat
Kispagat


Famous Hero
posted February 28, 2009 09:14 PM

Quote:
Wow, Strider was Rutger? You looked almost human Strider! Great motivation for the rest of us Maybe this game will be exiting for both players and fans Keep it up!!


All 3 games so far I had advantage at the beginning, and Strider was able to turn the dice.

I hope this time I can manage to roll all along.

Btw, Strider went to a business trip, so we have a break now, for another 5 days.

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Zilonite
Zilonite


Famous Hero
posted March 07, 2009 05:54 PM
Edited by Zilonite at 17:58, 07 Mar 2009.

Story goes on:

Strider-mine zone garnizon

Kispagat-mine zone garnizon

Short progress report (as far as i know) - both roll on fairly succesfully, no more major bleeding. Its day 14 now, Kisp still has a few days advantage, since Strider broke mine zone garnizon only now.

More news to come!

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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


Famous Hero
posted March 07, 2009 05:56 PM

Ye, in my overconfidence i miscalculated the dmg ponnies can take... in fact i just relied on defense value and didn't pay much attention. Just got greedy and wanted to take away morale from shooters... Again Kis has taught me a good lesson about carelessness

Today we both passed our mine garrisons. Kis some 4 days earlier. He has more troops, more registered dwellings and is super cool with terrain and guards hehe That is a talent

We continue in the evening... Zilo will post replays

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Zilonite
Zilonite


Famous Hero
posted March 08, 2009 08:29 PM

Kisp taking Balrog garnizon on week 3

Filenames are the ones that Strider used, so no blame on me

P.S. To see Balrogs animation correctly put Twilight World in your Maps folder
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Kispagat
Kispagat


Famous Hero
posted March 09, 2009 12:08 AM

Its week 3 balrog hunting, thanks to cold death, and anti-morale ring, it was easy-cheesy.


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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted March 10, 2009 07:24 PM

I wonder if there are chances for a hero to hero fight? And if you guys are going to play every match on this map?
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Zilonite
Zilonite


Famous Hero
posted March 10, 2009 11:36 PM

Newest hit:

Strider-necro garnizon

Gees, this is must see..

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csarmi
csarmi


Supreme Hero
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posted March 11, 2009 07:29 AM

Why, whats in it?

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted March 11, 2009 09:04 AM

Every creeper's worst nightmare. That must have hurt.
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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


Famous Hero
posted March 11, 2009 09:53 AM

Yeah hehe... It was funny. I had calculated mana and envisioned battle scenario. It involved killing death knights in 1 hit and then it should be easy. Dmg on champions strike was some 820-1400. Sadly, each time i forget that against Kis statistics doesn't work So champs hit on low range and also 25% deadly strike worked pfff...

Anyway, i was pissed (also by his comment ). Every time i step on the same booby trap called Kis - player whose power constitutes in equal parts of average tactics skill and incredible luck hehe

It will be fun See ya soon

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Kispagat
Kispagat


Famous Hero
posted March 11, 2009 01:25 PM

Quote:
Yeah hehe... It was funny. I had calculated mana and envisioned battle scenario. It involved killing death knights in 1 hit and then it should be easy. Dmg on champions strike was some 820-1400. Sadly, each time i forget that against Kis statistics doesn't work So champs hit on low range and also 25% deadly strike worked pfff...

Anyway, i was pissed (also by his comment ). Every time i step on the same booby trap called Kis - player whose power constitutes in equal parts of average tactics skill and incredible luck hehe

It will be fun See ya soon


Hmm, ye, deadly strike at that special moment was certainly a lucky strike for me, but I think that battle was very risky. I dont think that there was a way to avoid 2-3 strikes from death knights, and simoultanously protect crossbowmen from suffering real damage. And thanks to low mana pool, I am sure that this battle cant be perfect, some losses are unavoidable.

There was a battle one day before, when you attacked inferno garrison. I forgot to save, but my impression was that bad morale (-3) happened so often, I was only able to destroy tent and ammo cart and took 8 mana from you. Without bad morale "disease" (which means 30% chance and deadly strike has  25%) and/or other placement of the pitlords, you did not have sufficient mana to even try this one. So that was very lucky on ur side, just I did not make any remark on it that time. But I think maybe I should mention these occasions, to help you gettin clearer picture of the game and about the luck factor.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted March 11, 2009 02:41 PM

Yes that battle could have gone better but the risk threat was high. And while I know I am a lesser player than you two I can safely say that strider was pushing his luck there, didn't calculate the odds carefully.
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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


Famous Hero
posted March 13, 2009 02:00 PM

Dear Kis, i was greatly surprised that you put army on field in devil garrison at all as it was hopeless hehe Apparently we have very diverse judgment about tactics and strength assessment of arena battles You made childish mistake there by giving me away exp points but in the end you gained due to my mistake when i let you destroy tent and cart.

Also, in death garrison there would be no 2-3 death knight strikes as you claim if my champs hadn't dealt almost minimum dmg to them (probability 5%). And mana would be enough too Ofc, if i wasn't "sure" that champs kill death knights on 1st blow i would never risk with the attack and would simply wait. Well, my mistake was to forget whom i'm playing against

But it's futile to argue about tactics and relative power and only test can serve as objective evidence. Maybe one day you might understand my reasoning if you diligently train in battle tactics. Then you will be really formidable opponent. Go for it, tiger

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Fraudatio
Fraudatio


Famous Hero
posted March 13, 2009 02:17 PM

If Iraq would need a new minister of propaganda after comical Ali i know who I`d give my vote. If mistakes occur, just redefine mistakes to something else, and start to flame someone, maybe the flames go higher and higher and in the end cover the mistakes entirely.

More (average(?)) replays, less kindergarden.

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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


Famous Hero
posted March 13, 2009 03:10 PM

Ye, ye, you are right hehe I just got annoyed when negligible statistical probability is translated into "skill" as often with this player. Good to have you, Fred, to put me back on track of adult behavior

I apologize and let's get back on action rather than frustrated reaction

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