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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: Strider Hl-Kispagat Ceasar semifinal in TOH chatroom live
Thread: Strider Hl-Kispagat Ceasar semifinal in TOH chatroom live This thread is 17 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 · «PREV / NEXT»
Strider_HL
Strider_HL


Famous Hero
posted March 15, 2009 05:49 PM

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wow, these replays are good entertaining, why only 2 of them in battle strider, must be a good reason to take such risks? maybe the rest where going setting off to battle at another front

Anyway, GL to you both :-)

That was all my army hehe After death garrison, i took mega dwelling with 17 crossbowmen and bought these. This fight was a must so i had to undertake it.

But it doesn't matter now as Kis won. Replay soon... Fascinating morale fireworks

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Kispagat
Kispagat


Famous Hero
posted March 15, 2009 05:59 PM

Game 3 ended to my favour. Losses at necro garrison seems to be crucial. (14 champion, 180 crossbows)

I had perfect game until balrog garrison, then skilling became nasty, I could not reach swift mind, and I did not get any knowledge. At the final batle I had 165, so I did not have any option to take any of the main garrison.

I had worst spell in guild, implosion, because by default, dwarfen armor is available for both players in the map. I got deep freeze on my way, but armageddon I had from tome only. That left me in a bit of trouble, cuz I would rather use crystal ice or book of dark, but finally I needed to use that book to eliminate haven stacks.

Week 5 turned to be week of tough, increasing hp of each unit by 20%. This was a real disaster for me, since its decrease my spells effectivity, so I decided to wait one more day.

Was a good fight, since Strider came up with amazing amount of champions for the final battle.

Atb was cool for me, first champion charge give me the option to eliminate them easily, and then only vindicateors remain as a threath. But not for long

New strike out tonight.

I think Strider must start worrying, since he face the only person in toh history who beated him twice - ME

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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted March 15, 2009 06:17 PM

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I think Strider must start worrying, since he face the only person in toh history who beated him twice - ME

Yeah, match Strider-Willgefors must look nice too Congratulation to Kispagat.
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Clay_Man
Clay_Man


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TOH gamer
posted March 15, 2009 06:21 PM

Grats Kispagat!

Where's the replay?

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Zilonite
Zilonite


Famous Hero
posted March 15, 2009 06:40 PM

Strider-Kispagat final battle of game 3

Nice one, before the battle started I was quite not sure who will prevail. Yet in looks that necro garnizon disaster turned out to be gamebreaking point, just not nuff meat for haven to turn the tide.

Also great game in general for Kisp - when I saw the matchup I thought dungeon is hopeless against haven under Strider's command. But Kisp did it almost perfectly: mustering 19 dragons by week 5 is really, really good job

Btw, in both victories against Strider Kisp had dungeon, so, guess, that's 100% ban for next game

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Kispagat
Kispagat


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posted March 15, 2009 06:54 PM

[quoteAlso great game in general for Kisp - when I saw the matchup I thought dungeon is hopeless against haven under Strider's command. But Kisp did it almost perfectly: mustering 19 dragons by week 5 is really, really good job

Btw, in both victories against Strider Kisp had dungeon, so, guess, that's 100% ban for next game


Well, I am in a duungeon clan, its not an accident

But it was week 6 battle, 4 dragon marched from the town straight to the battlefield on day 1 week 6.

Flexibility of dungeon is much welcome on this map, but without light and/or wm, its still hell hard.

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted March 15, 2009 07:52 PM

That was a great game, was afraid that no swift mind would take its toll. The extra furies helped, didn't expect strider would start with cotn but with a mass haste or maybe an immunity, possibly teleport. Deep freeze and the armageddon cleared the battlefield in no time.
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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


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posted March 15, 2009 07:54 PM

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I think Strider must start worrying, since he face the only person in toh history who beated him twice - ME


Yeah, you are a real menace Each time you demonstrated exquisite array of skills bordering mysticism of bending probabilities hehe

In this game your economics part was good and army impressive - well done! Dungeon can do amazing things with expert light/regeneraton already on day 4 and war machines, and resurrection in mage vault at start of week 2 Admirable skill attracting these gifts - you are very talented hehe

Let's see what next game brings us hmm

P.s. Can you share with us the mod you use to equalize morale triggering neglecting the difference in their values?

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Kispagat
Kispagat


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posted March 15, 2009 08:24 PM

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I think Strider must start worrying, since he face the only person in toh history who beated him twice - ME


Yeah, you are a real menace Each time you demonstrated exquisite array of skills bordering mysticism of bending probabilities hehe

In this game your economics part was good and army impressive - well done! Dungeon can do amazing things with expert light/regeneraton already on day 4 and war machines, and resurrection in mage vault at start of week 2 Admirable skill attracting these gifts - you are very talented hehe

Let's see what next game brings us hmm

P.s. Can you share with us the mod you use to equalize morale triggering neglecting the difference in their values?


I cant share it yet, I need to win Ceasar title first.

About light, ye 2 % is certainly lucky to have. But correct me if I wrong, you had enlightment (also 2% chance) from very early too.

About resurrection, I have not used that, only at balrog garrison to resurrect furies.

Anyway, thanks, its always a good feeling to read ur gentle words.


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Kispagat
Kispagat


Famous Hero
posted March 15, 2009 08:43 PM
Edited by Kispagat at 21:05, 15 Mar 2009.

Matchups for game 4:

 Kispagat     Strider

1. Vittorio -  Yrbeth
2. Ellaine -   Yrbeth
3. Raven -     Gilraen
4. Talanar -   Inga
5. Kythra -    Klaus

Strike out starts now.

Strider striked out first two, me 3rd and 5th, so its number 4, Talanar vs Inga.

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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


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posted March 15, 2009 09:05 PM

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That was a great game, was afraid that no swift mind would take its toll. The extra furies helped, didn't expect strider would start with cotn but with a mass haste or maybe an immunity, possibly teleport. Deep freeze and the armageddon cleared the battlefield in no time.

I thought long about first cast. Maybe frenzy on raiders or mass spell and wait with champs. But in the end i understood that if Kis has book of dark then i would leave my champs to waste my own army without possibility to neutralize his magic due to ATB.

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Fraudatio
Fraudatio


Famous Hero
posted March 15, 2009 11:10 PM
Edited by Fraudatio at 23:11, 15 Mar 2009.

Congrats Kisp - and very nice that we will have another battle to follow

If it was one player I wouldn`t believe to consistently fall into luck accusations its the best of them all. I am starting to get constantly annoyed at your attitude Strider, you sound like David Beckhams son Brooklyn probably will sound like in some years time, spoiled and of superior worth. If you lose, dont credit the winner, tell him that he was awfully lucky and that you, THE MASTER, wouldnt have given him a chance if luck was even remotely close to 50% split. I can easily accept that we have different view on several things, but thats just so low i don`t really believe what i see here. You can sense the bitterness all the way fram Latvia to Norway.

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Elit
Elit


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posted March 16, 2009 08:05 AM

So far Kis is realy awfully lucky most from his games but i dont think ONLY Luck is enough some one to beat me so many games like him.
Main problem is Kispagat play very very well and combo with his luck make him very hard oponent.
Strider, You are lucky too. In my match from ToH Cup vs Kispagat i dont have ever chance to make mistske and loss for it. Read my comment about all 3 gams.
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=27025&pagenumber=14

So accept luck factor from Kis and give your best.

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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


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posted March 16, 2009 09:53 AM

Dear Fred, be more comprehending concerning my, indeed, annoyed remarks about the outcome. One thing is to lose to negligible statistical occurrence (still possible like having phoenixes in mage vault) but another is to listen to boasting and mocking in-game comments from Kis hehe

Using your football analogy, if Beckham scored amazing winning goal from 40 m in upper corner, run to goalkeeper telling in face: "that's my special for you", and later bragged that it was the natural outcome because he is so great, i doubt he would receive much respect from opponents

Don't get me wrong - Kis is superb player. I know this because on Twilight it's possible to observe opponent's actions in detail-he is creative, flexible and excellent creeper. Still, watching your mouth after miraculous events is a necessary skill too, don't you agree? (Remember how developed the after-game versus honeypants because of the very lack of this skill on my side).

P.s. Show me effective creeping with dungeon on Twilight without light magic and then annoyance will be substituted by respect

P.p.s. 5 of my 8 losses were square and fair. Only against Kis and Felunio i felt deprived of deserved victory.

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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted March 16, 2009 10:01 AM

Just drop it Such comments only attract the 'boasting and mocking' you are talking about. I know that kisp would not do something like that without good reason, he is cool headed and respects his opponents. On the other hand I have noticed your demeaning comments towards so many others with your subtlety concealing cheap shots. Let it go and so will they, anyone can get into an argument but you choose to prolong it.
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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted March 16, 2009 10:36 AM

Strider is a Nazgul !
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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


Famous Hero
posted March 16, 2009 11:00 AM

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Just drop it On the other hand I have noticed your demeaning comments towards so many others with your subtlety concealing cheap shots.

Ok, ok, let's drop this. Indeed, in general Kis is very tactful, tolerant person and perhaps, in this case, the overly excitement spawned this behavior

Elvin, you are wrong in your righteousness - i have NEVER disregarded opponent's skill except reacting in annoyed state to comments from Kis or that other. And i have certainly never boasted about victories Don't mix up my not-game related comments in our drama threads with expressions about my own matches!

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Kispagat
Kispagat


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posted March 16, 2009 11:15 AM

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Dear Fred, be more comprehending concerning my, indeed, annoyed remarks about the outcome. One thing is to lose to negligible statistical occurrence (still possible like having phoenixes in mage vault) but another is to listen to boasting and mocking in-game comments from Kis hehe

Hmm, I did not want to answer it, cuz this is crazy, but I cant stand. Honestly, I dont know what u are talking about. What are these comments you are reflecting to? I dont remember more than around 10 sentences about the gameplay.

I dont remember anything, which may cause so much pain.

As I remember that necro garrison conversation went like this (Feel free to correct me if I wrong):

Battle started, you were thinking for some minutes to attack with champions, I went away from comp, and when I returned I saw your remark:

Really who are you?

I did not understand that. Then I saw the battlefield that 1 death knigt remained, and 7 champs disappeared. As I remember I did not make any comment on that.

Then the battle went on, and my skellies bashed the sole champion. Then u wrote: damn. I answered: nice. If this nice was so frustrating, sorry.

Then you replied something like this: I dont know how long can I suck against someone so average player like you.

My response was: All along

No comment.

Well, the consclusion is simple. I will not make any comments during the play, except for possible time schedule questions or rule-problems, or lagging things. Please, feel free to make print screens about anything what I say or do. If u have already made some, show in msn or post it here to be able to refresh my memory about my comments. I will look at it, and will say sorry if my remarks crossed the line in the heat of the battle. But I dont remember such thing.
 

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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted March 16, 2009 12:13 PM

Imagine is he was subject to Valky's quips

To set some things straight I never spoke about disregarding skill or boasting, we all know what I am talking about. Heck you just now called me self righteous. And it is irrelevant if they were in a game, I can see the forum comments just as well. I will have to ask one last time that we leave the petty arguments behind, it's the least this forum needs whether they are warranted or not.
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samiekl
samiekl


Supreme Hero
posted March 16, 2009 01:22 PM

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P.s. Show me effective creeping with dungeon on Twilight without light magic and then annoyance will be substituted by respect



As usual you're talking crap. Dungeon doesn't need light to creep effective in Twilight, only warmachines. In week 1, you can clear starting area, including the guards of the shield and,  with a little luck at level-ups, the level 7 guards.

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