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ohforfsake
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posted February 16, 2010 05:08 PM |
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Well said Corribus!
@Celfious they wrote in the link that it was to be on most games, so it is likely to be heroes at least to what I can deduce, because I don't know through what system they differ what is worth and not worth putting this on.
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phoenixreborn
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posted February 16, 2010 05:18 PM |
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Quote: If a computer game company wants to require me to validate online ONCE when I install a game, I have no problem with that.
I don't even like that for a single player game. Heroes has a multiplayer component.
Quote: a fear about interrupted service and how that will affect someone who wants to play a game, which will presumably take a lot of time. Hours of uninterrupted service, say.
You are assuming this is a problem.
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posted February 16, 2010 05:26 PM |
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@PR
WHOOOOOOOOOSH!!!!!
(That was the sound of logic flying right over your head.)
Quote: You are assuming this is a problem.
Of course that's an assumption. What of it? One the one hand, I think it's a pretty damn good assumption. My internet goes out from time to time - why should this have to have a potential impact on playing a single-player game? And in any case, the fact that it's an assumption has nothing to do with the fact that There. Is. No. Irony. in posting on an online forum about not wanting to have constant online validation to play a computer game.
It's like layer after layer of non-sequiturs with you.
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phoenixreborn
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posted February 16, 2010 05:36 PM |
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Quote:
Of course that's an assumption. What of it? One the one hand, I think it's a pretty damn good assumption. My internet goes out from time to time -
What happens to the game when your internet connection goes out. Do you lose anything? Does the game resume when your internet connection comes back on?
I'd be a hell of a lot more pissed if I did not have an internet connection. That is a major issue.
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pei
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Fresh Air.
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posted February 16, 2010 05:44 PM |
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why cant they stop piracy by just offering cooler thingies if u have the damn key!
sorry elvin but i have to say that with ur internet...i would pay to see ur face at the momment of the disconnection
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted February 16, 2010 05:47 PM |
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Quote: why cant they stop piracy by just offering cooler thingies if u have the damn key!
sorry elvin but i have to say that with ur internet...i would pay to see ur face at the momment of the disconnection
LOL, just the fact that elvin started this thread should tell you people all you need to know.
If you still don't oppose it you haven't played with elvin much or are just stupid/blind.
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phoenixreborn
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posted February 16, 2010 05:51 PM |
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Also I feel you are missing some points with your logic, Corribus. For example all of the people posting in this thread have long consistent histories of posting on HC which is far more than just logging into a forum to complain about this issue. This indicates a solid internet connection used at all times of the day.
I ask again have you used Steam. I recently completed King's Bounty the Legend, a single player game, which took me about 30 hours using Steam and I never had a problem with the internet check required to start the game. So where is the problem in that case?
I don't feel you are showing me the consequences, just attacking my points.
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Elvin
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posted February 16, 2010 05:53 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 17:54, 16 Feb 2010.
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I'd voice my objections regardless of my net, that is a situation that affects a lot more than me.
@pei
Actually you are late for that, I've gotten mostly immune to that for a while now. Chances are you'd see a knowing smile than a face contorted with seething hatred
@PR
Oh come on drop it You know we are all on the same side anyway.
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Doomforge
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posted February 16, 2010 06:19 PM |
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I thought this was an april fools joke or something. But I keep hearing the rumor that it is in fact true @.o
which is completely and utterly retarded.
If THIS is meant to stop piracy, I can only laugh. because most likely the games will be cracked after a week to work offline, meaning, AGAIN, pirates will enjoy the game like normal and the users that paid for the game will be screwed.
Seriously, copy protection did NOTHING other than cause annoyance to customers and they STILL insist on introducing it. What's worse, it's more expensive (SecuROM for GTA4 which got cracked like, two days after the release, was worth 200 000$ - if they spent that money to pay people to work on tons of gamebreaking bugs instead, it would be much, MUCH better) and more annoying than ever before. We have seen everything, from "type word 5 paragraph 7" of ancient times, through "you need to insert the CD to play the game" and "you need a valid CD-key to play this game" to crap like secuROM and they STILL haven't learned ANYTHING. And now they insist on even bigger madness?
I don't know who manages the work of companies such as UBI, but he has literally no ability to learn or think logically. How many stupid protections need to be broken for those people to learn that they are only hitting their own supportive customers with that sort of ****?
The pirates are laughing in your stupid faces, you corporate tight-butts -_-
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angelito
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posted February 16, 2010 06:40 PM |
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Yes.
Ubisoft should rather work on programs which load hugh viruses on computers who play those games with cracks
Or the main hero should suicide automatically start of week 2 if game was started with a cracked exe file, so those pirates can only play S and maybe M maps
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baklava
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posted February 16, 2010 06:54 PM |
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Quote: hugh viruses
OH GOD I'LL NEVER PIRATE AGAIN JUST GET HIM OUT OF MY PC
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posted February 16, 2010 06:59 PM |
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phoenixreborn
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posted February 16, 2010 07:08 PM |
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Quote: @PR
There. Is. No. Irony. in posting on an online forum about not wanting to have constant online validation to play a computer game.
It's like layer after layer of non-sequiturs with you.
Ok seriously why are you so worked up about a tangent. Fine there is no irony.
And why haven't you provided a coherent explanation of the issue with online validation (like I did with a user not having an internet connection which does not apply to Corribus)? I provided the Steam example of it working just fine.
Just now I tried to login to my msn and it said it wouldn't work because the server was down. Does this pass muster with the irony police or would you like to point out my logic flaws in this paragraph?
Edit: the msn worked fine a couple minutes later. wow!
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posted February 16, 2010 07:10 PM |
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I think I may haven gotten my chance today afterall.
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Azagal
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posted February 16, 2010 07:12 PM |
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Phoenix steam requires you to be online for playing a game multiplayer, not to play something singleplayer. That's where ubi is different. And I do think it's a pretty ridiculous notion to for a guy who wants to play singleplayer to be online. Especially considering the state ubi-servers are in.
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Keksimaton
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Talk to the hand
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posted February 16, 2010 07:23 PM |
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If they have any hint of competence in them, they'll be prepared to at least somehow handle their new system.
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Corribus
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
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posted February 16, 2010 08:05 PM |
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Quote: And why haven't you provided a coherent explanation of the issue with online validation (like I did with a user not having an internet connection which does not apply to Corribus)? I provided the Steam example of it working just fine.
Wait, when and why did I become the spokesperson for those who don't like constant online validation? Do I feel the need to justify anything to you? Not really. It's something I don't like, and I couldn't give two farts if you think it's logical or not.
In any case, you made the fatuous statement about the alleged irony of using a message board to voice displeasure about an online game, not I. You wanted clarification. I gave it to you. Finis.
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phoenixreborn
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posted February 16, 2010 08:44 PM |
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For someone who is so detailed on arguments I find it strange that you would just say "because I don't like it". You don't have to "justify" anything to me. This is such a strange viewpoint.
I really don't get this argumentative hostility. I am asking why you don't like online validation, maybe hoping for an example where it went badly for you. Since you engaged the topic I thought you might answer no harm done if you choose not to. Did I say I would come to your house and kill you if you didn't answer?
No one here has given a straight answer to this question. There is rage about piracy and internet connections failing.
If you don't want to provide on topic discussion there is no need to take out your hostile feelings on me.
In fact I think I have made a good point about people not having internet connections. What would they do? But everyone would rather just rage on.
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted February 16, 2010 09:06 PM |
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Simple. Not all people have a constant well-working internet connection at hand everytime they want to play something.
Say you install it on a laptop and take the laptop with you. You feel like some heroes 6. Ooops! No go. You don't have an internet.
Or you play it all nicely at home and BAM!, there went the internet. I quess that means no more gaming...
And then there's the fact that ubi serves suck and are unable to handle even the current traffic. I see no good in crowding them even more which means you couldn't play anything since they are down all the time...
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TheDeath
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posted February 16, 2010 09:46 PM |
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Quote: Ubisoft should rather work on programs which load hugh viruses on computers who play those games with cracks
Done before. Some uncracked games crash because of this scheme, cracks bypass them. Customers use cracks. Some games even require you to install rootkits -- which is a serious security vulnerability and any anti-virus would warn you. Quite frankly, installing one of those "copy protection schemes" uncracked, means you are CRAZY or not caring about your system at all.
Sorry that you can't patent your idea, it's been done before
You know, even programs (e.g: Cubase 5) which requires hardware dongles (connected to USB ports), with encrypted communication and 80% of the software having protection functions, have been cracked. (albeit after a long time, but the security scheme research has took months as well)
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