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Fauch
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posted July 29, 2008 07:51 PM |
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You can create knight with all stacks imperial griffin int. arties increase sp and kw, and armageddon-masscare
didn't thought of that. but I created a duel hero specialized in imperial griffins... maeve.
griffins with initiative 31 and morale 5 aren't bad 
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Siyana
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posted July 29, 2008 10:47 PM |
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Irina buffs griffins, not Maeve. Maeve improves Haste spell.
You can only fit 5 griffins on the field, though.
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espen15
Famous Hero
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posted August 04, 2008 08:06 PM |
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well haste spell is good to.
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grantsin11
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 04, 2008 10:18 PM |
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only if its empowered or you're really weak or it's still early in the game.
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Rillafane
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posted August 22, 2008 10:11 AM |
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I have to say something for master hunter. Since many have ignored the fact that their single shot damage potential is not half of AA's.
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1.If we set aside AA's ability to ignore range penalty, and half defense ability(and they have one more Att), both have 50% chance to perform a luck shot
MH's damage potential should be
Damage 5~8
((6.5 * 0.5) + (13 * 0.5)) * 2 shot=19.5
AA's damage potential should be
Damage 8~9
(8.5 * 0.5) + (17 * 0.5) = 12.75
So in close range, MH seems to be better.
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2. Put range penalty into consideration:
MH's damage is halfed 19.5 /2 = 9.75
compared to AA still 12.75
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3. Now, if there's any damage modifier(like the claw, Frenzy...)
Suppose the modifier is 2, without range penalty
MH's damage potential should be
Damage 7~10
((8.5 * 0.5) + (17 * 0.5)) * 2 shot=25.5
with range penalty 25.5 /2 = 12.75
AA's damage potential should be
Damage 10~11
(10.5 * 0.5) + (21 * 0.5) = 15.75
Now we can see MH benefit better from damage modifier (and Soldier's Luck to trigger warding arrow)
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Put defense reducing ability and one more attack, AA surely beats here.
But with a Unihorn bow, things might totally change. Put in Warding arrow is handy sometimes.
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razor5
Famous Hero
Freezing...
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posted August 22, 2008 10:18 AM |
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Why you ressurect this?
You really need to spam here?!
Better you let this thread to die!
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Rillafane
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 22, 2008 10:19 AM |
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Oh, forget to mention, from my previous post, I think Atheist do have a point. MH do benefit more from luck for their double shots.
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Rillafane
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posted August 22, 2008 10:21 AM |
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You really need to spam here?!
Better you let this thread to die!
Opps, sorry, I am a new comer.
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razor5
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posted August 22, 2008 10:25 AM |
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Nevermind,allright you better go first to the Newcomers Guide !
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 22, 2008 12:18 PM |
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Says the spammer  Welcome Rillafane.
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TheDeath
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
with serious business
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posted August 22, 2008 12:47 PM |
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Oh, forget to mention, from my previous post, I think Atheist do have a point. MH do benefit more from luck for their double shots.
No it doesn't. Check the math before posting nonsense.
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 22, 2008 09:37 PM |
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it depends how you see it. if you think reliability, maybe master hunters are more reliable than arcane archers, because you'll deal 150% damage most of the time (with chance 5)
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razor5
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Freezing...
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posted August 22, 2008 09:55 PM |
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Says the spammer Welcome Rillafane.
Who's that spammer? Me?
Elvin,I only want to say,to Rillafane(because he is new) about spam-is a bad thing in forums
Probably you call me a spammer because I made a thing here who is Moderator's work.
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 22, 2008 10:10 PM |
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what is the problem with him posting here?
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Vexon
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 22, 2008 10:19 PM |
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There's no problem with voicing an opinion on a useful topic. If this was some 4 year-old thread concerning ''Hey, who likes pie?'', it would be spam. Considering this is a 2-week old thread about the overpowered Arcane Archer, any opinion is valid. Maybe Razor cut a bit too deep with his last shave, or whatever. I don't consider it spam.
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted August 22, 2008 10:34 PM |
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There is no problem, as vexon mentioned it was rather inappropriate to drive away a newbie for posting ontopic on a recent thread. No big deal, think nothing of it.
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atheist
Hired Hero
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posted August 23, 2008 05:30 PM |
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Edited by atheist at 17:31, 23 Aug 2008.
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The debate is far from over and there is no consensus : the current poll as of today shows only 61% of respondents think that AA > MH. I'm happy that the 3.1 patch did not take into consideration the complain of some players that AA is overpowered when they are clearly very well balanced. Learn to play with MH and stop complaints. Victory to Master Hunter! AA remains unchanged in patch 3.1!
61 % means a little more then flipping a coin! Let me make that clearer : from 10 people, only 6 think AA is better compared to 4. So learn to play, again. A nice day to you all.
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TheDeath
Responsible
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posted August 23, 2008 05:31 PM |
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Edited by TheDeath at 17:58, 23 Aug 2008.
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The debate is far from over and there is no consensus : the current poll as of today shows only 61% of respondents think that AA > MH. I'm happy that the 3.1 patch did not take into consideration the complain of some players that AA is overpowered when they are clearly very well balanced. Learn to play with MH and stop complaints. Victory to Master Hunter! AA remains unchanged in patch 3.1!
61 % means a little more then flipping a coin!
Do you also still believe the Earth is Flat if 90% of the people say so? Tell me 
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted August 23, 2008 05:32 PM |
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Again, you're completely wrong. Only 24% voted that they are fine, less than a quarter!
There were two more silly options which some people voted in joke
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 23, 2008 07:10 PM |
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Well it's pretty obvious that those who voted for master hunters don't know how to play H5.
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