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wog_edn
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posted July 24, 2011 09:07 AM

He had a license for that kind of weapon as far as I know.

He crossed by boat, not ferry. There are rarely ferries to places such as that island.

And I have no idea how he got the uniform. It is not that hard to imitate one though. And if you know the right people I bet you could acquire one rather easily.
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TheBaron
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posted July 24, 2011 02:59 PM

I just read a testimony from one of the young people on the island, she survived by hiding behind a rock. She said that people were fleeing away from him into the water and forest, but he would just mow them down, at first with the assault rifle, then with his handgun. He would try and coax other swimmers back towards him by saying that he was a police officer, and that he was there to help, shortly before shooting them as they came. Some people tried to avoid the carnage by pretending that they were dead, but the girl said that once he had shot them, he would walk over to the bodies and shoot them in the head as they lay.

It really is the stuff of nightmares. I remember what it was like in Australia after the Port Arthur massacre, I dread to think what Norway is going through. My deepest condolences go out to everyone over there.

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friendofgunnar
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posted July 24, 2011 04:42 PM

I'm curious if this has made anyone rethink their opposition to the death penalty?

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Salamandre
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posted July 24, 2011 04:43 PM

Should it? Taking a life is a barbarian act, which side you are on does not matter.
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blizzardboy
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posted July 24, 2011 04:51 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 16:52, 24 Jul 2011.

Barbarian

If a person that was allegedly against the death penalty changes their mind because something really bad happened, then I don't think they were ever against the death penalty to begin with; they just never gave their view any thought.
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Adrius
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posted July 24, 2011 09:46 PM
Edited by Adrius at 21:56, 24 Jul 2011.

They've gotten their hands on his diary...

I'll translate some highlights...

JANUARY 2010
"I must admit that I've become a notorious downloader of pirated films, tv-series and games. Stealing is bad. I admit. But if you devote your life to something good you can allow yourself some bad deeds. Yeah, yeah no one's perfect."

FEBRUARY 2010
"The following weeks I'll intitialize the research-phase: Investigate the possibilities of acquiring weapons and armor, development of weapons of mass destruction (explosives); the acquiring of components for weapons of mass destruction."

MARCH 2010
"I have now changed my Facebook-profile and transformed it into a politically correct profile. I fear that my activities have resulted in me being listed on various surveillance lists. I know that some of the FB-profiles I've added are false and are used by various european and american intelligence agencies."
"I appreciate a glass of red vine of good age now and then, maybe I'll drink one before starting the operation."

AUGUST 2010
(Anders went to Prague to aquire equipment)
"I've acquired several police-ID-badges and rank insignias, professionally printed. Paid cash of course. But I've decided to abort the mission and instead acquire the weapons I need legally in Norway. I've had a great vacation, and have visited most of the historical points of interest. I have also partied with people I met at the hostel. Time to go home..."


SEPTEMBER 2010
"I've requested a Ruger Mini 14 half-automatic rifle, it's the most miltary-like weapon allowed in Norway. I envy our european-american brothers, the weapon laws in Europe sucks.
On the application form (for the weapon license) I wrote: Deerhunting. It was tempting to write the truth: Execution category A and B Cultural-Marcist/multicultural traitors just to see their reaction "

OCTOBER-NOVEMBER 2010
"I am now watching Dexter, a tv-serie about a forensics medicine technician and murderer. Very entertaining!" (Adrius note: FFFFFFFFUUUUUU!!)

11 JUNE 2011
"I prayed for the first time in a long time today. I explained to God that if he doesn't want the Marxist-Islamic Alliance and Islamists to take over the European Christainity completely in the next 100 years he needs to make sure that the warriors fighting for the European Christainity rules."

3rd JULY 2011
"I wonder if it's possible to get my hands on special aggression-pills. It would probably be useful in certain military operations. Especially if you mixed them with steroids and ECA. It would turn you into a superhuman one-man-army for two hours!"
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JoonasTo
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posted July 24, 2011 09:50 PM

Can't...


...stop...


...laughing!






Dis be epic!
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted July 24, 2011 10:06 PM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 22:26, 24 Jul 2011.

One man revolution? Idiocy, what will people think of next....

So many died for one mans failed and **** up plans....
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Corribus
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posted July 24, 2011 10:21 PM

Great.  He just had to mention Dexter.

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Adrius
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posted July 24, 2011 10:33 PM

He also took a pause in his scheming to watch Eurovision though.
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xerox
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posted July 24, 2011 11:17 PM
Edited by xerox at 23:22, 24 Jul 2011.

I have started to read his book now and maybe its horrible to say but its a very exciting book and his diary is a very good and interesting read. He will probably end up giving me a few (less extreme) ideas since I am young and can still be manipulated a bit.

It is obvious that he is very intelligent and wants to be some kind of martyr for ultra super hyper omega nationalists.

And now, I have not changed my mind about death penalt after this. It is barbaric and belong to the middle-ages, not to modern liberal nordic countries.
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Adrius
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posted July 24, 2011 11:23 PM

I heard that his book was basically a complete copy of another work, he just changed the name of the author to himself.
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Jabanoss
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posted July 24, 2011 11:38 PM
Edited by Jabanoss at 23:39, 24 Jul 2011.

That guy is so scary simply because he has such a clear goal.
He was targeting innocent people just because of their opinion and political view. He knew that the people at this camp was young and promising politicians, people that would very likely become the top of socialists in Norway.
So he basically just killed some of the people that would very likely turn into to the most powerful and influentially in future Norway.
He knew that they would be easy targets.

I don't know, usually when tragedies happens in the world I don't really care, or at least don't get sentimental and stuff.
However this makes me feel really sick. I just find it's disgusting that someone specially targets people the be sacrifices because of they views and opinion. To be slaughtered like lambs, just because he thinks it's right, that their death are part of something bigger.

Now when he has committed the deed, he will try to convince people that he was right and that more people should follow his ways.
Lets instead hope and make sure this leads to more tolerance and unity in the world, so that his "crusade" may be a failure...
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shyranis
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posted July 25, 2011 12:06 AM
Edited by shyranis at 00:13, 25 Jul 2011.

Quote:
11 JUNE 2011
"I prayed for the first time in a long time today. I explained to God that if he doesn't want the Marxist-Islamic Alliance and Islamists to take over the European Christainity completely in the next 100 years he needs to make sure that the warriors fighting for the European Christainity rules."


My goodness, people really believe that some kind of Liberal/Marxist-Islamic alliance exists?

Aren't Liberals supposed to be stereotypically athiest and thus opposed to Fundamentalism?

People like this make my head hurt. I don't know why they bother getting out of bed in the morning. All this man has done was hurt his own cause.

What kind of idiot, no matter the political ideology wakes up and goes "I am going to kill a bunch of people today". Extremism is just awful.
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xerox
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posted July 25, 2011 12:10 AM

The book is in english so I do not understand why Adrius had to translate it.

And its obviously not a copy as he has tons of personal stuff in it and guides on how to create bombs and he details his work to a 110%.

Here is the book because apparently the United Nations have it!

http://unitednations.ispnw.org/archives/breivik-manifesto-2011.pdf

very interesting
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Adrius
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posted July 25, 2011 12:25 AM
Edited by Adrius at 00:25, 25 Jul 2011.

I didn't translate the manifesto man, I said it was the diary.
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xerox
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posted July 25, 2011 12:29 AM
Edited by xerox at 00:34, 25 Jul 2011.

But there is a diary inside the manifesto thing...

Stop lying

its the exact same thing and it is english

Here is the part where you got the January 2010 thing from:

A usual day for me involves email farming, writing, sharing “moderate”
resources from my book on debate groups to coach fellow cultural conservatives, smoking,
eating chocolate lol, taking a daily 1 hour walk/motivational meditation and doing some
occasional battlegrounds in WoW on my badass Horde resto druid. I just completed Dragon
Age Origins not long ago. A brilliant game! It’s important to have fun a few hours every
day. I regret to admit that I’ve become a notorious downloader of pirated movies, series
and games etc. but have noticed that an increasing number of sites have been closed down
lately. Stealing is bad, I admit, but then again, when you have devoted your entire life to a
good cause you can allow yourself some naughtiness especially if it can contribute to
conserve your funds, cough. Yes, yes, no ones perfect


Yes, he thinks Dragon Age Origins is brilliant.
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Salamandre
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posted July 25, 2011 12:38 AM

It looks like the maximum jail time in Norway is 21 years. He will be out at age of 50?
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Adrius
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posted July 25, 2011 12:43 AM

Oh, ah well. At least I got some of the more interesting parts summed up.
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Seraphim
Seraphim


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posted July 25, 2011 03:08 AM

@ Xerox


Wow,i hope people wont create a connection between playing games and murdering 90 unknown people. People love to say that shooter games did it to him,diverting the attention to what the real problem was.

Now all those people who opposed shooter games have something to moam
about.


ona a side note,i find it quite amaizing how the norvegtian police FAILED to act accordingly.

Firstly,there were more than a hundred kids on an island,why the hell were no policemen there?

Secondly,that gunner gunned people for 1 and half hours,where was the police during that time? Does not Norway posses some snipers of sort?

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